Antigua
Penny Puce by Robert Graves
published1936
[Mrs Trent says:] “Mr. Oliver
would gladly step into your shoes. If he marries Miss Edith, that’s exactly
what he’ll do. He’ll make Miss Edith put up the money to buy you out, and then
you’ll see! ‘O. Price, handicap 2, manager of the Burlington Theatre’ —astrakhan collar
and all.”
[Jane:] “Yes, he distinctly
mentioned plays to me that day he tried to pump me about the twin business. And
he’s got just the neck for an astrakhan collar”
I had far too much to say about this excellent book for just one post, it was getting longer
and longer, so I decided to separate off this passing phrase. Reading the
initial post will help. The book is about two feuding
siblings, Oliver and Jane. She has a very successful theatrical company, and
she and an ally are discussing Oliver’s plans to do her down.
Astrakhan is a woolly, curly fur – very distinctive, you’d
know it if you saw it – originally coming from a town of that name in Iran. I’m
not sure if these items are exactly the same, but there is also Persian lamb,
and karakul.
But astrakhan collars for men were a thing, very much part
of the lore of the theatre: impresarios and actor-managers wore them. And filmstars - this is Rudolph Valentino.
Oliver himself says later “Jane may joke about astrakhan collars,
but I’ll make a jolly sight better manager than she did. I mean, I’ll stage
things really worth staging.” Which I feel makes clear to the reader what kind
of a manager he will make. Later….
“When Jane happened to pass Oliver in Bond Street one day
he was not yet wearing his astrakhan collar…”
And I give you three two splendid examples in the picture - couldn't you just stare at them and imagine their lives? Valentino again.
ADDED LATER: originally there were 3 pics here, but I realized after posting that one of them was not in public domain so I have removed it.
However, Christine in the comments (thank you!) suggested Diaghilev and so I quickly found this picture, LOC, featuring Serge Diaghilev and Leonid Massine
---and will seize the chance to also move up from the comments Chrissie's excellent contribution:
Cannot resist quoting this from Betjeman's 'The Arrest of Oscar Wilde at the Cadogan Hotel':
'One astrakhan coat is at Willis's -
Another one's at the Savoy:
Do fetch my morocco portmanteau,
And bring them on later, dear boy.'
Astrakhan came up in the recently-featured Patrick
Butler for the Defence by John Dickson Carr. There
is a man wearing this:
A long dark rather shabby
overcoat with an astrakhan collar, such as has been seen seldom in the past
fifty years. [Not true, by the way, according to my other examples]
It is seen as a ‘theatrical overcoat’ and is part of the
evidence for its owner being on the stage.
Long time radio personality Irene Thomas – you need to look
her up, there’s no possibility of my explaining who she is – said in her
weirdly-compelling 1979 autobiography, The Bandsman’s Daughter:
Donald Wolfit… chilled our
blood wonderfully with the ‘Death of Bill Sykes’ from Oliver Twist with that
marvellous husky actor-manager’s voice – a voice with an astrakhan collar if
ever there was one.
There was some
discussion of fur coats in this Ngaio Marsh book, including an astrakhan overcoat for
a lady.
In this long-lost Christmas entry, a character has ‘a grey
suit with a trim of caracul’ (otherwise Karakul, Persian lamb), and I was very
impressed that a male author had done such details, before finding out in a
dramatic intervention that it was a woman under a male pseudonym.
After all this, you may be surprised to hear that Antigua Penny Puce is about a postage stamp (that’s the title) – an item which has sparked the
feud between the siblings. But as I say in the original post, the book is about
much more than that. And there is a blissful discussion in the comments btl about what colour exactly puce is.
This post is a ragbag already, drifting from astrakhan, so
I will throw this in too:
A nice point arises: one of Jane’s company of actors has
been married and divorced four times – I have read and written a lot
about the divorce laws of the time, but never come across this:
On one occasion, according to
Jane, the co-respondent (no, that’s the wrong word ; co-respondents are,
technically, male only ; we should say “‘ intervener’’ or ‘‘ woman named ”’
according to the moral indignation of the lady in question) was the
wife of a foreign ambassador and the case was heard in camera.
Novels are full of lost facts and fascinating details –
sociological research as I always say. I don’t NEED to justify my constant
reading of fiction, but the benefits are there. I don’t think my regular
readers and commenters are going to argue with that.





I think that there is an Astrakan collar on the coat that Juno Marlow ( fabulous name) steals, in Mary Wesley’s ‘Part of the Furniture’
ReplyDeleteI know you made a comment about MW in a recent post, but I have to say she has written some of my all time favourite comfort reads, the one I have mentioned is top of my list.
Good to know - and yes that is an excellent name. You are encouraging me to try MW again!
DeleteCannot resist quoting this from Betjeman's 'The Arrest of Oscar Wilde at the Cadogan Hotel':
ReplyDelete'One astrakhan coat is at Willis's -
Another one's at the Savoy:
Do fetch my morocco portmanteau,
And bring them on later, dear boy.'
I have ordered the Graves book from the London Library. Chrissie
Perfect, so on-topic, I have put your quote in the main post
DeleteDiaghilev too?
ReplyDeleteI had to replace one of the original pictures so I took your suggestion and looked up Diaghileve. See updated version above for the result!
DeleteOh yes!
DeleteProbably another of my inaccurate sartorial imaginings, but the first chap in that trio of pics doesn't look all that theatrical to me, with the homburg (I think) and the brolly. (And just watch, he'll turn out to be some grand impresario!)
ReplyDeleteI don't think anyone knows who it is, it's just a photo that keeps being reproduced, so you can decide for yourself!
DeleteMassine needs to get himself a Homburg - the bowler doesn't work nearly so well!
DeleteSovay
Yes! He looks like Stan Laurel. That picture does him no favours - looking at other pics he was a good-looking man
DeleteThere's a type of hat made of astrakhan too, in various styles. I associate it with Russian diplomats but maybe theatricals wear it too! https://www.ascot-tophats.co.uk/astrakhan-hat-grey-natural-persian-wool-winter-headwear?srsltid=AfmBOop0QP6Coiq4yu1aUlr_4op7LSDhvGXDp6ukwa-n2izIgB3pfEMF
ReplyDeleteNice.
DeleteI used a picture of a Turkmenistan hat stall in this post https://clothesinbooks.blogspot.com/2013/04/mercy-by-jussi-adler-olsen.html
and imagine some of them are Persian lamb...
I learn every time I visit your blog, Moira! I know what the Astrakhan collar looks like, but never knew it had a name! Funny, isn't it, how some fashions really do become closely associated with one or another profession or group. Fascinating! And a good reminder that I should read this book.
ReplyDeleteI know and it's impossible to work out exacly why that association occurred. Fun to investigate though
DeleteJaney Ironside's Fashion Alphabet (1968) says Astrakhan see Caracul: Persian lamb from the district of Karacul on the borders of the Caspian Sea: see Persian lamb ..[which] comes from almost everywhere except Persia. Wins my prize for most circular dress definition this January. They lopk fabulously warm as well as flamboyant
ReplyDeleteThis is taking me back to when i was trying to find out about caracul!
DeleteBy circular I mean not getting anwhere , rather than actually round and round. All your examples look wonderfully warm.
ReplyDeleteYes I knew what you meant!
DeleteWhat a fascinating post. For some reason l always associated astrakhan collars with shady, 19thC Easrern European immigrants - I had no idea they were so popular with ‘theatricals’. Cheaper and less showy than a fur coat, but nevertheless symbol of wealth and and status perhaps in a profession where income could be notoriously unreliable.
ReplyDeleteAlso (and this is ver naive of me), I assumed (erroneously as it turns out) that they were made of wool, like knitted yarn or felt or something. Now I discover that lams are killed and their skin used to make astrakhan collars, which is hottible. It is ideologically unsound.
ReplyDeleteThanks Christine. I really enjoyed delving into this, and wondering why such an association should exist. BUT you are correct and it turns out that the production of the fur is absolutely dreadful, shocking.
DeleteI too used to hope that the lambs were only sheared but now I have to group astrakhan with the fur trade, and to me it's worse because of the lambs!
DeleteChristine - it is possible to knit a fair imitation of astrakhan with the right weight of bouclé yarn, which may be why you thought this was what astrakhan was.
DeleteSovay
Marty: yes it's horrible
DeleteSovay & Christine: yes, and a treasured blog regular can tell you how - here's Shay
https://littlegreybungalow.blogspot.com/search?q=collar
I'm impressed with the collar, and even more so with Shay's plan to re-line her coat - I need to do the same with mine but can't quite summon up the nerve to take it to bits.
DeleteSovay
Thank you Sovay. I’m not sure my knitting skills (or lack of) would ne up to tha!
DeleteShay, that is a fabulous post, and I admire your skill.
DeleteWe always knew she was clever...
DeleteYou can't go more astrakhan than these gentlemen, can you?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-1921-david-lloyd-george-lord-birkenhead-winston-churchill-outside-134878313.html
Thanks, great picture. What a crew! All qutie theatrical in their way....
DeleteAnd here again, the bowler is not the best hat choice. Topper or Homburg definitely the best options; I think a fedora might be slightly too casual.
DeleteSovay
These well coated politicians are certainly performing power in their dress . I agree about top hats, even Oscar Wilde wore a topper with his astrakhan collared coat, sadly I can't find a pic of him like this at the moment.
DeleteI think the bowler doesn't look right, topper and homburg fine, and am open to the fedora (I just have a soft spot for fedoras in all circs). A picture of Oscar would be wonderful
DeleteI feel the Homburg has more gravitas, the topper more style and charisma; the fedora is a favourite of mine too but too firmly associated in my mind with 1930s policemen and private eyes to look right on a big impresario.
DeleteI’m recurrently surprised when reading Simenon to be reminded that Maigret wore a bowler for most if not all of his career in books. His image in my head is always Rupert Davies (in the BBC TV series) in a fedora.
Sovay
Isn't Poirot often pictured wearing a bowler, on book covers and such? I think Suchet wore a homburg most of the time, and Finney wore a bowler IIRC. Ustinov wore various headgear but I don't think it included bowlers.
DeleteIMO nobody could wear a bowler better than John Steed!
Delete"The Avengers" was broadcast in France under the title "Chapeau Melon et Bottes de Cuire" - ie "Bowler Hat and Leather Boots"!
DeleteI associate Poirot with a Homburg but that probably is because of the David Suchet series. There must surely be some references in the books to his taste in hats, but none are coming to mind.
Sovay
Wilde by Whistler:
Deletehttps://www.amazon.co.uk/Poster-Corp-1854-1900-Caricature-Whistler/dp/B07CFMX6YN
Sovay
Sovay, I am equally surprised by the Simenon news, not at all how I imagine Maigret.
DeleteBowlers definitely hard to wear and look cool - apart from Sally Bowles in Cabaret.
I don't have a clear view of Poirot in mind, but both homburg and bowler sound right.
That is a wonderful picture of Wilde!
I think bowler hats were unofficial uniform for Belgian (Bruxellois?) plain-clothes police. It's said that Magritte was told of his mother's suicide by a pair of bowler-hatted policemen as a child.
DeleteWas Poirot one of the two lurking policemen in The Menaced Assassin ?
Wow that is a solid gold fact and an even more golden speculation about the picture!
DeleteSovay, thank you for the Wilde picture. Now I'm suddenly obsessed with bowler hats. So agree that only John Steed and Sally Bowles really wear them well.
DeleteYes we've got the two winners there
DeleteI associate that habit of draping a long coat over the shoulders with theatrical types, too. With a jaunty fedora and a white silk scarf, and maybe an elegant walking stick.
ReplyDeleteConjuring up a splendid picture. Is that what shoulder robing is?
DeleteOn Google, shoulder robing seems to be mostly in women's fashion, but it's basically the same thing
DeleteI've heard it mentioned for both....
DeleteI am trying to figure out how to follow your blog. I don't do Twitter. I'm sure it must be staring me in the face, but I don't see it. Perhaps you have an e-mail list, as Persephone Books does?
ReplyDeleteHello - I appreciate your thought! Blogger (which is a free platform so I can't complain) doesn't offer that option any more, I don't know why not. There are ways around it, but they involved writing your own computer code. Every so often I try to work out some solution to this, no luck so far, but I will keep trying...
DeleteI wonder if the myth of one twin being infertile is a muddled recollection of an odd animal husbandry fact: in cattle, if male/female twins occur, the female is generally infertile and is known as a "freemartin." The mechanism by which this happens doesn't appear to be possible in human reproduction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemartin
ReplyDeleteOh fascinating! it sounds as though there must be some connection - a muddle along the way
DeleteProbably not him, but the man with the pipe and umbrella reminds me of William Lyon Mackenzie King, Canada's wartime PM. I don't know if he smoked a pipe, but look at those eyebrows.
ReplyDeleteThe picture is all over the place, but haven't found a convincing name.
DeleteHe certainly looks as though he could have been an era-appropriate PM of Canada!
Love these pictures and although I never knew what astrakhan was, I understood it was dashing. However, speaking as someone currently in 12 degree (-11 celsius) weather, I'd prefer something that kept my neck warm!
ReplyDeleteHeyer spent a lot of time being disdainful of puce - no heroine is caught dead in that color. Ashes of Roses is probably very similar but sounds much more appealing, doesn't it?
Looks vs climate is a long-time issue for clothes choices isn't it? And probably has been since Neanderthal times.
DeleteIt just doesn't sound nice, puce. Ashes of Roses! I think there was a cheap but popular perfume called that....
I remember Ashes of Roses as a colour from “The Thorn Birds” by Colleen McCullough – very popular when I was at school, and highly scandalous as the heroine was in love with a priest. Can’t recall many details now but I think the heroine got married (not to the priest, obviously) in an Ashes of Roses dress signifying the demise of her great forbidden love. She had red hair – I can’t remember whether the colour was supposed to compliment or clash with it.
DeleteSovay
Oh yes, The Thorn Birds. I can't remember if I read the book, though I covered another book by her on the blog.
DeleteThat's hilarious about her dress choice! bit hard on the husband...
The book was published in 1977 so it must be getting on for 50 years since I read it - can't now remember whether she pretended to love the husband or whether she was all "My life is eternally blighted so I might just as well marry you" and he was OK with that. I'm fairly sure the marriage didn't last though.
DeleteSovay
It's definitely a candidate for my tosh reading...
DeleteTony Hancock (the character) wore that type of coat which, according to AI overview, “with its characteristic curly fur collar, was part of a look that defined his "pretentious, vainglorious and vulnerable" character.”
ReplyDeleteOh yes! As soon as I read the name I had a mental picture of him like that
DeleteThe look includes the hat - a Homburg, which by the mid-late 50s would probably have been part of the 'pretentious, vainglorious' image, being associated with an older generation of statesmen and other Establishment figures.
DeleteSovay
Yes indeed
DeleteI would love an astrakhan collared coat. As stylish today as 100 years ago. I have never seen one in a store. Sigh.
ReplyDeleteIt would be so you, Bill. And warm and practical too...
DeleteJust came across this. When Michael Arlen was asked by a Chicago reporter to what he thought he owed his success, he touched the astrakhan collar of his overcoat and replied, 'Per ardua ad astrakhan.'
ReplyDeleteOh that's brilliant, and so perfect for our theme.
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