The Tiffany Problem, and other naming issues
Theophania, aka Tiffany
One of my bugbears is when
character names in books are ‘wrong’ in my important view – in
a post earlier this week I looked at contemporary writers, setting their novels
in living memory, and whether or not the names are convincing. And I included
some splendid lists of names from 50+ years ago. Many many readers came to
comment – their views and lists of names are a delight.
This second post will look
at names in historical fiction, but also mop up a few other aspects – we wouldn’t
want to miss out any of my valuable opinions would we?
And I do have all kinds of
opinions on character naming - read me
in the Guardian on the subject here – though that’s more about names that I just didn’t like for a
variety of reasons. (I really enjoyed reading it again for this post. Many
people have complaints about Gone
Girl, but I think my particular whine is not one you see everywhere…)
I am not (solely) here to shame the guilty, though can’t
resist mentioning Joel Dicker (who sold enough copies of his terrible book not
to care what I think) – this is me dissing The
Truth About the Harry Quebert Affair – I am linking to my blogpost only
because I enjoyed being mean about it.
There is a policeman called Gahalowood. Made that up did we? There is a slight ring of the writer Celine, who likes a strange name: Colonel O’Collogham in London Bridge is my favourite.
Historical fiction has
the problem outlined gloriously by Robert
Irwin in his magnificent Wonders Will
Never Cease, set in 15th Century England:
‘By the five wounds
of Christ! This is the curse of the English aristocracy. We lords and ladies
are so brainless that we cannot think of any names for our children except
Elizabeth, Anne, Katherine, Henry, Richard, Edward and John. And then again
Henry, Elizabeth, John, Katherine, Richard, Edward and Anne. So we are in a
constant muddle as to who is who. The lower orders have more sense and
imagination, for they take names like Hodge, Poyns, Garth, Alfred, Marigold and
Beverley. By God, I am heartily tired of my own name, John, and I believe that
I shall have myself called Actaeon, Zoroaster, or perhaps Fabrice.’
(One of the comments on the first post asks a question about the Irwin book, btw - would he really have used 'Beth' for an Elizabeth?)
And think of Henry VIII – he managed to marry 6 times, but only got 3 names between all of them. THREE Catherines?
Anyway - this as an example of my
complaints, without naming the book:
I am willing to
go out on a limb here and say there was no Irish housemaid in the whole of
London in 1888 called Sharon. So naturally I assumed Sharon was a time traveller.
[Spoiler: she isn’t. It is just a mistake.]
But – is it possible I may be wrong?
My friend Emma told me recently about the fascinating Tiffany
Problem: Jo
Walton (a great favourite round here, and not only because she has
visited the blog more than once) identified this by pointing out that Tiffany
was in fact a popular name in mediaeval times, a version of another name, Theophania – but it would not sound
convincing now in a historical novel. She talked about this in a podcast from
the excellent The Allusionist - this
is a transcript of the epi where she discusses the issue. So
we have to be careful. And Jo Walton – whom I have endless respect for –
identifies other ways in which we get the past wrong: it is well worth reading…
you can get a flavour from this splendid line from Helen Zaltzman, the
Allusionist herself:
And maybe, hundreds of years
from now, archaeologists dig up a small pale blue Tiffany box, and after some
time studying the other documentation they have unearthed, historians deduce
that the box came from a place that sells breakfast.
Author Lissa Evans
was quoted in my first
post on names, and she had more comments on historical fiction:
But even names which are
historically correct can sound wrong to the modern ear - for instance, an
incredibly popular girl's name of the early 20th century was 'Pretoria', after
a battle in the Boer War, but although using that name would be pleasing (to
me) and accurate, I'm not sure that anyone would believe it...
And she added this:
Incidentally, my Mum spent her
entire life explaining that she wasn't named Shirley after Shirley Temple (who
was, in any case, younger than her) but after the Charlotte Bronte book!
I have been told that Charlotte
Bronte chose the name as being distinctly UN-feminine – it was a place
name, with certainly no history as a girls’ name. She wanted to represent, it
is generally thought, her sister Emily, who was monumental and not at all a feminine
figure. (Jimmy Porter in Look Back in Anger describes a male friend as ‘a sort
of female Emily Bronte’). She deliberately chose an asexual name – but has been
very much overtaken by events and by a rather small actress.
Incidentally, I always think (judgementally) that Charlotte
Bronte’s two great friends were Ellen Nussey and Amelia Ringrose, so you’d
easily pick her name as the future novelist among the three of them…
Keeping up the high literary tone, I always thought the song
Mambo Number 5 contained a splendid list of women’s names for the era it
was first released – around 1950. Checking that out for this post, I found to
my astonishment that the original version, by Perez Prado, was
mostly instrumental, with a few scratch lyrics. The version we all know, with the names -
a world-wide hit – was written by Lou
Bega in 1999. It is not known how he chose the names, but this is the list:
Angela, Pamela, Sandra, Rita, Monica, Erica, Tina, Sandra, Mary
Could they BE more 1950s?
If he wanted more names for further verses – this is a list
of names in Elly Griffiths’ The
Vanishing Box (published 2017): girls in a stage show in the mid-50s in
Brighton. Excellent!
Elly G is another author who gives names good thought and
gets them right.
I was delighted to find, from the reaction to my first
post, that so many people share my fascination with this subject – although none
of us seem to have a huge interest in men’s names, it’s definitely the female side that takes our attention. I’m also aware that I haven’t even mentioned Patricia
Wentworth, Queen of the strange names, (though she does come up in the comments on the first post) but then she does not really reflect
any aspect of real life. One day I will do a post on the names of Miss Silver
World.
And, one final link – in this blogpost I explain how best-selling
author Michael Lewis made me think about attitudes to names. Not intentionally (we worked together, but he wouldn't have the faintest idea who I am) - it was because his online fans were, I thought, unnecessarily rude about his
children’s names, and I thought real life children should be protected from name-criticism
Michael Lewis and the Birth of Online Commenting (clothesinbooks.blogspot.com)
So I will stick to criticising fictional names, where I
feel open warfare is permissible.
Please bring it on in the comments.
Names really are tricky, aren't they, Moira? Honestly, that's why my characters usually get names that aren't particularly tied to a certain era. Of course, that's much harder with historical fiction where the names have to feel authentic.
ReplyDeleteyes, researching this post I have been fascinated by the distinction between what is authentic and what is convincing! As various people say, there are perfectly good names that you can't get away with.
DeleteThe Beth issue highlights one of the problems of writing historical novels - once you've done the extensive research, you then have to decide which historical facts your readers will find plausible and which they won't!* It's entirely possible that there were instances of Beth as a short form of Elizabeth in the late 15th century, but to me with my superficial knowledge of the period it just felt "off".
ReplyDeleteSovay
* Unless you're going to footnote your novel, but only Terry Pratchett and Susanna Clarke really pull that off.
I love a footnote, but it doesn't always work well.
DeleteGibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire (which is of course history not fiction) has wonderful footnotes, and my Victorian edition has footnotes on the footnotes from a stuffy editor.
And with these names we are getting into another area that I enjoy a poke around it - things that seem like anachronisms but aren't. Names a very fruitful area for that.
"Bess" was OK in the sixteenth century, so you could just think of "Beth" as Bess with a lisp.
ReplyDeleteYes, the poster above thought it should have been Bess!
DeleteQuite a few of the names in Kelly's list are actually pretty old. Even Fenella is a version of a. Gaelic name.
ReplyDeleteDarn auto-correct! Elly Griffiths, not Kelly!
ReplyDeleteI believe that Florence Nightingale started the fashion for Florence as a first name for girls - until then it was rare. Shelley's son had Florence as one of his names, perhaps he was born there?
Delete(Always good for pub quizzes - where was FNightingale born? Florence
Where was Leonardo da Vinci born? Vinci)
Florence Nightingale was named after her birthplace so that was probably the only reason children had the name before she made it famous. There's an old soldier in Bleak House whose many children are named after their birthplaces.
DeleteNowadays there is an implication that babies might be named after where they are conceived which seems a bit personal
Delete"Haystack Smith..."
DeleteIt also suggests a low level of activity in the parents.
Indeed, and this reminded me of something which I tracked down in my head and remembered it had been on the blog - I considered it an almost perfect joke:
Delete"I came across Pat Fitzpatrick while reading an Irish newspaper: he made a joke in a column saying that David and Victoria Beckham had a friend who was now a player at Shamrock Rovers in Dublin, but:
It's fair to say the Beckhams won't be paying him a visit in that part of Dublin. They wouldn't want some future child asking, 'Tell me again why you called me The Red Cow?'
Now you need at least 3 pieces of trivial information and pointless celebrity gossip to understand this joke, but when you do it is hilarious, and I laughed so much I had to see what else he had written..."
I particularly liked that it is not necessary to know anything about The Red Cow.
There's a florence knox in book re 19th cent ireland, usually known as flurry. Oh what is title? Anyway he is a wily celt.
ReplyDeleteIt's "Some Experiences of an Irish RM" by Somerville and Ross
DeleteOh indeed - Flurry was not unknown in Ireland, and the Irish RM was very enjoyable.
DeleteOh and have a look at Henry James. Fleda never caught on.
ReplyDeleteFleda Vetch is a terrible name. But sometimes he did well - I loved the Kate Croy/Milly Theale division. And felt Cassamissima is quite the name for a princess.
DeleteSo interesting, names of all sorts and histories.
ReplyDeleteIn my dewy youth, I worked at an insurance company paying death claims (Why yes, it WAS an interesting job.) One day, I paid a claim on a man born in the 1880s whose name was...Shirley Temple. Yes. I couldn't help thinking what a pain in the neck the existence of that little moppet must have been to him, from 1930 onwards.
NO! Poor chap. Idly living his life unnoticed for so many years then suddenly matched up with a dancing tot. I call that hard luck.
DeleteThe red-haired orphan in Anne of Green Gables from 1908 is called Anne Shirley. In Rainbow Valley, published in 1919, she has a son named Shirley, so it still seems to have been a male name at that time.
ReplyDeleteOh yes, I'd forgotten that. I guess he was Shirley Blythe then - both UK place names.
DeleteShirley Temple became popular in the early 1930s - that must have thrown the men called Shirley. It reminds me of Laurie in Little Women, whose first name is Theodore - he gets annoyed with fellow students who call him Dora.
I can't remember which book, but Georgette Heyer named one of her stereotypically maddening chits "Tiffany," short for Theophania.
ReplyDeleteOh yes, it's The Nonesuch, which apparently I reread in 2018 but didn't blog on. I liked the character of Tiffany very much - she is, as you so rightly say, a chit, not a main heroine, but was good fun. In my notes I say the book had an 'abrupt ending' but I have no memory of what that problem was...
DeleteMY problem is that I can never remember without looking up whether there is an 'e' in the middle of Nonesuch.
I always feel that Tiffany with her violet eyes was modelled on the young Elizabeth Taylor. - Clare
DeleteOoohhhh - did anyone have violet eyes before Elizabeth Taylor?
DeleteShirley Crabtree was the real name of the English wrestler Big Daddy. Born 1930.
ReplyDeleteRight! That always made me very puzzled when I was young, particularly when he was a rough tough wrestler.
DeleteAnd that's just reminded me - wasn't John Wayne's first name Marion?
As in books so in publishing. In the Sloaney 80s I worked for a publisher who changed the names of those of us who had pleb names, so I became Jessica.
ReplyDeleteNo! that's outrageous. How did they put that to you?
DeleteI pointed out it was wrong on my contract, they amended it but they kept calling me and addressing memos etc to Jessica. I believe Haymarket publishers changed names too.
DeleteI left after 6 months, it was a shame because they gave us luncheon vouchers. I realise that was a tax efficient to pay us less but I loved them.
DeleteLuncheon vouchers! I'd forgotten about those, do they still exist? I loved them too because you had to spend them on food - exactly their purpose - no need to wonder if you should save money on lunch.
DeleteThe first lesson in names I remember was in Upstairs Downstairs when Lady Marjorie felt her new housemaid's (who had gone to the front instead of back door!) name was too exotic and called her Sarah instead! That was a long time ago but my mother and I certainly enjoyed that show. We were certainly proponents of appropriate historical names. In fact, when I was editing regency and historical romances for Penguin, some of our authors chose pen names that fit the genre!
ReplyDeleteThere used to be a wonderful website called Baby Wizard that showed the popularity of names over the years. Constance was at its peak in the 50s when my mother begged my grandmother to use it on her baby sister. "Save it for when you have a daughter!" said my grandmother and used Deborah instead. Several years later, she decided Debbie was too common and changed my 4 year old aunt's name to Adrienne! Imagine!
I am loving people's family stories as much as the book stories!
DeleteThere are a lot of interesting sites on baby names, but it is hard to find large-scale reliable statistics.
In the UK people were very keen, towards the end of the last century, on quoting the Times newspaper list of popular names. But that was based entirely on people who announced their baby arrivals in the Times. It did make for an interesting list, with changes showing up - but it excluded huge sectors of the population.
The name Tiffany goes back at least to the 10th century. In 972 the Byzantine princess Theophanu (Θεοφανώ) married the future Holy Roman Emperor Otto II. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theophanu
ReplyDeleteClare
Thanks! that's a picture of her above, the second illo.
DeleteSince moving to NZ I have come across the name Raewyn(n), which was new to me. Seems to have been popular in the 1950s in the same era as Susan, Linda, Sandra, Janice, Diane etc.
DeleteNew one on me - we need a long-time NZ resident to comment.
DeleteIf I read one more Regency romance with a Brianna I may very well scream. How hard is it to look up the names of nobility from the time? Five minutes research, and you are set.
ReplyDeleteAnd then there's the completely inappropriate names for noble characters, like Abigail and Jade. Shudder.
That made me laugh!
DeleteGeorgette Heyer has a very well-born Abigail, who comments on the fact that her name literally is a name for a maid - but never explains why her parents would have called her that.
I once encountered Jade as a character name in a novel set in the Tudor period, when it was a vocabulary word meaning 1) broken-down old horse and 2) slut. As you say - five minutes' research ...
DeleteThat's hilarious! Poor Jade, not much hope for her really....
DeleteIIRC, Heyer's heroine comments bitterly that her name means "my father's joy," which, given her unhappy relationship with her bad-tempered bully of a father, was the height of irony.
DeleteOh I'd forgotten that it was explained. As you say, nice bit of irony.
DeleteMy grandmother claimed to have heard of a baby whose parents wanted to name him Saturday Majestic Atlantic, as they thought he had been conceived on a Saturday on a ship called the Majestic while they were crossing the Atlantic. I can't remember if she knew whether they thought better of it! She did actually know a Victoria Plum and a Lily White, and kept for years a newspaper cutting of a wedding between Miss Haddock andr Fish.
ReplyDeleteExcellent stories! I am always astonished at the idea of celebrating a conception - isn't it a bit private?!
DeleteMy husband's name is Speed, which (given the children were going to share it) ruled out a number of first names, in my view. Max and Lois Speed would have opened up a lot of teasing.
Quite a few Patricia Wentworth names come from the works of Charlotte M Yonge (I think she says so in the case of Medora in The Key).
ReplyDeleteGood point. Miss Silver and presumably Mrs Wentworth both great fans of Charlotte M Yonge.
DeleteGood point. Miss Silver and presumably Mrs Wentworth both great fans of Charlotte M Yonge.
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