Sense and Sensibility by Jane Austen
published 1811
Set mid-1790s
Jane Austen's Sense and Sensibility could not be contained in just the one post (last week - here) and I had to try to illustrate the waistcoats….
Marianne Dashwood claims that Colonel Brandon is too old
for love, and that his wife would be nothing more than a nurse.
Elinor says: “I must object to your dooming Colonel Brandon and his wife to the constant confinement of a sick chamber, merely because he chanced to complain yesterday (a very cold damp day) of a slight rheumatic feel in one of his shoulders."
"He talked of flannel waistcoats," said Marianne; "and with me a flannel waistcoat is invariably connected with aches, cramps, rheumatisms, and every species of ailment that can afflict the old and the feeble."
Above is a collection of waistcoats (going forward in time): and here is an actual flannel waistcoat or gilet from a later era:
Sense and Sensibility is a most entertaining book, with lots of funny moments –
though I think this one is treated unfairly by critics:
"I wish," said Margaret, striking out a novel thought, "that somebody would give us all a large fortune apiece!"
"Oh that they would!" cried Marianne, her eyes sparkling with animation, and her cheeks glowing with the delight of such imaginary happiness.
Margaret is 13 and Marianne 17: it is seen as naïve and charming but silly of the sisters to think like this. But really – this kind of thing does happen in books all the time, unexpected bequests arrive when it suits the author… (see Miss King in Pride and Prejudice ‘The sudden acquisition of ten thousand pounds was the most remarkable charm of the young lady.’) And it's quite normal to say 'If only I could win the lottery.'
The Dashwoods become great friends with another family, subject of much satire. Mrs Jennings (rather low socially, but well-off) has married her daughter Charlotte off to Mr Palmer. This exchange is typical:
"You and I” said Mrs.
Jennings, "should not stand upon such ceremony."
"Then you would be very
ill-bred," cried Mr. Palmer.
"My love you contradict
every body," said his wife with her usual laugh. "Do you know that
you are quite rude?"
"I did not know I
contradicted any body in calling your mother ill-bred."
"Ay, you may abuse me as
you please," said the good-natured old lady, "you have taken
Charlotte off my hands, and cannot give her back again. So there I have the
whip hand of you."
Charlotte laughed heartily to
think that her husband could not get rid of her; and exultingly said, she did
not care how cross he was to her, as they must live together. It was impossible
for any one to be more thoroughly good-natured, or more determined to be happy
than Mrs. Palmer.
Blimey. This is quite the conversation to be having in
company, however good-naturedly.
And Jane Austen hasn’t finished with Charlotte: the Dashwood sisters are invited to stay in Mrs Jennings’ house in London, and there is this almost unnoticeable put-down:
...the young ladies were immediately put in possession of a very comfortable apartment. It had formerly been Charlotte's and over the mantelpiece still hung a landscape in coloured silks of her performance [ie her making], in proof of her having spent seven years at a great school in town to some effect.
In general, Austen is very disparaging about education and schools, - you can't see her thinking girls should have science lessons, and she never says (as Charlotte Bronte does) that women should have more and better opportunities. In Emma there is a passing sideswipe at schools where “young ladies for enormous pay might be screwed out of health and into vanity” – though this is not Mrs Goddard’s school in the book. The most recent adaptation of Emma has that weird reference to Margaret Atwood’s The Handmaid's Tale - the boarders march along in their red cloaks and bonnets. I find it very hard to know what Jane Austen thinks about learning and education for women, and would welcome views.
Still in Mrs jennings’ house, and Marianne is ill AGAIN.
Elinor was soon joined by Mrs.
Jennings, with a wine-glass, full of something, in her hand. "My
dear," said she, entering, "I have just recollected that I have some
of the finest old Constantia wine in the house that ever was tasted, so I have
brought a glass of it for your sister. My poor husband! how fond he was of it!
Whenever he had a touch of his old colicky gout, he said it did him more good
than any thing else in the world. Do take it to your sister."
"Dear Ma'am,"
replied Elinor, smiling at the difference of the complaints for which it was
recommended, "how good you are! But I have just left Marianne in bed, and,
I hope, almost asleep; and as I think nothing will be of so much service to her
as rest, if you will give me leave, I will drink the wine myself."
Elinor, as she swallowed the
chief of it, reflected, that though its effects on a colicky gout were, at
present, of little importance to her, its healing powers, on a disappointed
heart might be as reasonably tried on herself as on her sister.
I like the idea of Elinor knocking back her sister’s wine,
there’s a touch of the Bridget Jones in the whole scene, you could just hear our
favourite singleton saying that she might as well drink it rather than let
it go to waste.
A great moment in a highly enjoyable book – Austen never fails you.
Waistcoats from a French encyclopaedia
Fashion plate NYPL.
I'm glad to see you having a bit of a discussion about waistcoats, Moira. I know what they are, but have very little deep knowledge about them. As for the book? In some ways, Austen was of her time, so I can see why she'd make the comments she does about women. In other ways, though, I think she had some rather modern views, too. Interesting! And it's Austen, so it's easy for me to praise her work.
ReplyDeleteIndeed - always something interesting to find in Jane Austen. And the variety of waistcoats is fascinating once I started looking for pictures!
DeleteThe question of education is an interesting one. Jane Austen had herself hardly any formal education but was extremely intelligent and an avid reader, and I think her criticism of the female education of her day was primarily aimed at the so called “accomplishments”; as in the conversation in chapter 8 of Pride and Prejudice, where Mr Bingley says about the women he meets: “They all paint tables, cover screens, and net purses. I scarcely know any one who cannot do all this; and I am sure I never heard a young lady spoken of for the first time, without being informed that she was very accomplished.” This is countered by Mr Darcy in words which I think pretty closely echo Austen’s own opinion: “Your list of the common extent of accomplishments,” said Darcy, “has too much truth. The word is applied to many a woman who deserves it no otherwise than by netting a purse or covering a screen...”
ReplyDeleteMiss Bingley then gives her opinion that “no one can be really esteemed accomplished who does not greatly surpass what is usually met with. A woman must have a thorough knowledge of music, singing, drawing, dancing, and the modern languages, to deserve the word; and, besides all this, she must possess a certain something in her air and manner of walking, the tone of her voice, her address and expressions, or the word will be but half deserved.” So far so good; we know that Miss Bingley herself “had been educated in one of the first private seminaries in town” and this is a chance for her to advertise this.
But the crunch of the conversation comes in the next line: “All this she must possess,” added Darcy; “and to all she must yet add something more substantial in the improvement of her mind by extensive reading.” The fact that the hero of the novel actually wants a woman to develop her intellect so as to be able to think for herself can hardly be stressed enough in my opinion. Radical in its time and sadly still radical today in some circles. (And then of course he also turns out in the end to actually be able to listen to a woman, to take in what she says and to admit that she was right and he was wrong. Wow.)
Thanks for that lovely roundup and reminder of the evidence! Do you think Jane herself never met the right man who would appreciate her intelligence....?
DeleteJust to start another hare: I'm not sure Lizzie takes enough blame for being completely wrong about Wickham....
A flannel waistcoat is evidently the equivalent of a nice warm woolly vest and bedsocks – sensible, not sexy.
ReplyDelete"I did not know I contradicted any body in calling your mother ill-bred." This made me laugh out loud, all the more so because no-one DOES contradict him. I can’t help being fond of the Middletons and their circle, however infuriating they must have been to know. Did your recent viewing of Austen adaptations include a 1971 BBC version of Sense and Sensibility, with Joanna David, Ciaran Madden, Robin Ellis and Clive Francis as Elinor, Marianne, Edward and Willoughby (and Michael Aldridge as Sir John)? BBC4 is going to be showing it next Wednesday, 28 May.
Women’s self-education through reading comes up in Emma – Mr Knightley comments that she’s forever making lists of improving books, but doesn’t have the perseverance to do the actual reading. This carries over into her plans for Harriet’s further education too - “Her views of improving her little friend’s mind, by a great deal of useful reading and conversation, had never yet led to more than a few first chapters, and the intention of going on tomorrow.”
Sovay
I watched every moment of every adaptation, including that one! I thought it was well done, but everyone in it looked very much of the time of making rather than regency. Joanna David is very striking but she looks SO 1971. Robin Ellis was quite the heart throb in the 1970s Poldark. Also Patricia Routledge, still quite young but perfect as Mrs Jennings, foreshadowing all the great roles she was moving into as she got older.
DeleteThe improving books in Emma really struck me on this latest re-reading, very funny.
Hair and make-up in period drama is always subject to modernisation, conscious or otherwise – I think the theory is that the main characters, especially the romantic leads, have to look attractive and appealing to the modern viewer (or at the very least, not ridiculous) so the more authentic an actor’s appearance from that point of view, the further down the cast list s/he is likely to be.
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A very interesting and convincing idea Sovay.
DeleteI caught up with the 1971 BBC Sense and Sensibility – very declamatory acting style (apart from Patricia Routledge sounding exactly like Hyacinth Bucket), lots of identifiably early 70s fabrics, and whilst Willoughby was presumably fanciable at the time I found his voice very off-putting – he sounds about 50.
DeleteI was on the alert when the glass of old Constantia appeared – disappointing that Joanna David left it on the dressing table instead of knocking it back Bridget Jones style.
Sovay
It's nice that they are showing them all for the anniversary, giving people a chance....
DeleteNothing is ever perfect, but it wasnt bad. Agree about Willoughby's voice.
I would presume Austen favoured women studying some things at least, like Christianity, litterature and history. But I I think she was positively against greater opportunities for women. My reading of Pride&Prejudice is that it warns men to keep their womenfolk under control, least they disgrace themselves like Lydia, make poor marriages like Georgianna almost did, or behave foolishly like most of the Bennet women.
ReplyDeleteThe 1995 Pride and Prejudice briefly have women in similar red cloaks, before any reference to a Handmaid's Tale could be intended.
Oh fascinating perception, wholly defend-able, but possibly controversial among readers here, we'll see what they say.
DeleteI hadn't noticed the red cloaks in P&P...
Charlotte seemed to "wear the pants" in the Collins marriage but whether Austen approved of this is hard to tell. Austen was no revolutionary and seemed to accept society pretty much as it was, despite her satirical tendencies. I have the impression that education for the upper classes at that time was mainly at home or in the finishing schools, with no effort to prepare "ladies" for anything but marriage. Maybe, like Trollope, Austen believed that women belonged "in the home" but she also realized the challenges and frustrations women faced?
DeleteIt is interesting that she is so un-pin-down-able on this subject, because you feel you can guess her views in other areas. But it seems all we know is that she thought she (and presumably Cassandra) had done all right. But that's not much help to other women...
DeleteFlannel waistcoat discussion reminds me of Miss Silver, who would probably approve of the Colonel but might find Edward not quite satisfactory. Waistcoats in general take me back to "Another Country" with very young Rupert Everett and Colin Firth, waistcoats being worn by the prefects at their school.
ReplyDeleteYes, can just imagine Miss Silver being very pro-flannel.
DeleteWaistcoats: one of the reasons (if you had any doubts) for being certain that the unnamed school was Eton.
It's interesting that wine, and a rather good one, should be proffered rather than, say, a herbal remedy, but in character for Mrs Jennings!
ReplyDeleteI saw somewhere that crocheted waistcoats for women are in at the moment; I had one in the 1970s.
Yes, I think it's another sign of her kindliness and worldly generosity.
DeleteOh my goodness - crochet waistcoats shout 1960s and 70s to me. I suppose everything comes round again.
And then there's Mr. Collins, who seems a proponent of instruction for young ladies. Instruction of a certain nature, of course.
ReplyDeleteSome years ago I wrote a short story, A Death at the Parsonage, and decided no one would mind my killing off Mr. Collins. So I went through P&P to choose a suitable motive.
There it is in Chapter 14: ...when tea was over, [Mr. Bennet was] glad to invite him to read aloud to the ladies. Mr. Collins readily assented, and a book was produced; but, on beholding it (for everything announced it to be from a circulating library), he started back, and begging pardon, protested that he never read novels . Kitty stared at him, and Lydia exclaimed. Other books were produced, and after some deliberation he chose Fordyce's Sermons. Lydia gaped as he opened the volume, and before he had, with very monotonous solemnity, read three pages, she interrupted him [with some unrelated gossip].
...Mr. Collins, much offended, laid aside his book, and said: "I have often observed how little young ladies are interested by books of a serious stamp, though written solely for their benefit. It amazes me, I confess; for, certainly, there can be nothing so advantageous to them as instruction. But I will no longer importune my young cousin."
I'll add that the book is Fordyce's Sermons to Young Women, 1766 (text available by online search). It contains some truly vile opinions, no doubt embraced by Mr. Collins, including the following, regarding novels and young ladies:
"What shall we say of certain books, which we are assured (for we have not read them) are in their nature so shameful, in their tendency so pestiferous, and contain such rank treason against the royalty of Virtue, such horrible violation of all decorum, that she who can bear to peruse them must in her soul be a prostitute, let her reputation in life be what it will."
Yes, I found my motive.
Oh my goodness, well done for tracking that down. I think we all guessed the nature of Fordyce's Sermons, but really that is beyond one's worst imaginings.
DeleteI have actually read Fordyce's Sermons, and it is depressing reading, preaching the subjugation of women in every possible way. If your husband is unfaithful it must be your own fault for not being pleasing enough, for instance. And also: a proper young woman has no conception of love (i.e. sexuality) so that when a man proposes to her, she will turn him down at first from mere shock. But when the proposal is sanctioned by her parents she will obey their wishes and then begin loving the man himself out of gratitude for choosing her. A very convenient view of things from the man's point of view - and exactly the attitude of Mr Collins when he proposes to Elizabeth. If you know your Fordyce you can see how Mr Collins echoes his opinions almost word by word. Now Fordyce was one of the people Mary Wollstonecraft attacked in her Vindication of the Rights of Woman, and I think it is extremely clever of Austen to signal her alliances here by making a character everyone can see to be stupid the one to represent Fordyce.
DeleteThat is fascinating, and very much evidence as you say. As I say above, I hadn't realized the full extent of this - and it does most certainly tell us something about Jane.
DeleteSigh. I just posted a long and carefully composed response. Yes, it was posted, because I then copied it into a docutment for my own records.
ReplyDeleteAnd then it vanished. !!!!
Okay, if it doesn't return eventually, I'll post it again.
I found it and published it! It went into the spam folder - and I have to tell you that you are in good company. Blooming Blogger sometimes puts MY comments into spam! But it's free...
DeleteI wonder if it was because it contained the P word, in the penultimate line...?
DeleteThat hadn't occurred to me! I should test out the theory...
DeleteRed flannel cloaks were a traditional garment for many girls and women of certain social standing, I'd point you towards "Mrs Hurst Dancing" which is a collection of sketches of everyday life by Diana Sperling between 1812-23. LOTS of red flannel cloaks and bonnets in those drawings!
ReplyDeletehttps://janeausten.co.uk/blogs/authors-artists-vagrants/the-jane-austen-of-art-diana-sperling
DeleteOne of the sketches can be seen here!
These pictures are gorgeous - I found a few more by her online, and they are just beautiful, full of life and joy.
DeleteBut their red flannel petticoats were what the sisters in The Railway Children used to stop the train that would otherwise had had a terrible crash. A Vindication of the Worthiness of Red Flannel in my opinion.
DeleteIndeed. I wrote in the Guardian once: "Another disappointment for men of a certain age: they have a complete conviction that in E Nesbit's The Railway Children, the girls Bobby and Phyllis take off their bloomers and wave them at the train to save it from disaster. But the truth is that in the book, as with Jenny Agutter and Sally Thomsett in that film, it is their red flannel petticoats they use. Sorry."
DeleteIt's a myth that doesn't die in the UK....
Mrs Hurst Dancing is a wonderful book! In the 1995 Persuasion film (the one with Ciáran Hinds as Captain Wentworth) Louisa and Henrietta wear red cloaks. I always thought the costume designer for that film must have used the book as a source. It was published in 1981.
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It looks beautiful - I am eyeing up copies though it is quite expensive. But so fresh-looking, and modern - it looks like a contemporary idea of illustrations, so fascinating that it's from the time, as doesn't seem to resemble anything else.
DeleteOh my, I've got a copy. I hadn't realised it was now expensive!
DeleteA comparable book/publication is Making Victorians: The Drummond Children's World 1827-1832 which is a collection of little drawings, paintings and paper dolls made by a family of young children aged between 8 and I think, 15.
DeleteI'd also give a shout out to the much later, but very, very funny "Maud: The Illustrated Diary of a Victorian Woman" - now THAT is a wee bit expensive on the resale market it looks like, but I just heard a rumour that the original diaries/drawings are being acquired by a major museum.
I hadn't heard of either of those Daniel, must go and take a look.
DeleteScarlet cloaks were still around at the end of the 19th century - Miss Bobbie Bennett in "Some Experiences of an Irish RM" wears one to what is strictly speaking a hunt ball, though not bearing much resemblance to the usual image of that glamorous social event.
DeleteSovay
I wonder why scarlet? - was it just a fashion, or was there some reason why that dye was useful?
DeleteIt seems “scarlet” was originally a term for a particularly good quality woollen fabric, suitable for warm weatherproof outerwear, which was characteristically dyed bright red – the colour took its name from the fabric, not vice versa. I think by the 19th century the scarlet fabric itself was history but the association of the colour with fine quality wool may have lingered on.
DeleteSovay
Thanks for the info, very interesting
DeleteAlso scarlet was thought to be a naturally warm colour, which may have been a bit of a placebo effect where just KNOWING you had on your red combinations would make you feel warmer.
DeleteMysteriously I can quite understand it. It does make you feel warmer!
DeleteI love Mrs Jennings and this is one of my favourite moments in any Austen novel. I think a moderate amount of wine was regarded as good for you - even as sanctioned by the Bible - and given the lack of effective medication in those days, who is to say they were wrong? Chrissie
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely! Mind you, I bet Fanny Price wouldn't have glugged it down to mend her broken heart...
DeleteI always thought that the rheumatic feel that Colonel Brandon complains of might be from the site of an old wound - he was a military man - and that would make it much more romantic. He has a lot in common with William Dobbin from Vanity Fair, and although Marianne has a lot more going for her than the soppy Amelia, they are both equally poor at judging who is worthy of love.
ReplyDeleteA very convincing idea. And yes, interesting comparison with Dobbin...
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