tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post98071419351542086..comments2024-03-28T20:46:22.875+00:00Comments on Clothes In Books: Under Two Flags by OuidaClothes In Bookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-16851547944012231382014-12-08T09:13:36.672+00:002014-12-08T09:13:36.672+00:00Thanks Christine for all the extra info - I have r...Thanks Christine for all the extra info - I have read Angel, so it's great to make that connection. Ethel M Dell - I read one by her, and it was not great, but I'd read another by her before I ventured into Ouida territory again. Corelli - Daniel (commenting below) has got me lined up to read one by her, but haven't got there yet. Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-17467520428915294012014-12-07T21:46:59.395+00:002014-12-07T21:46:59.395+00:00Ouida was the pen name of Maria Louise Ramé, also ...Ouida was the pen name of Maria Louise Ramé, also known as Marie Louise de la Ramée, an English novelist who wrote Under Two Flags and A Dog of Flanders. She was a very extrovert, odd person, and is believed to be one of the inspirations for the character of Angel in Elizabeth Taylor's novel of the same name. Ethel M Dell and Marie Corelli have also been cited as influences. When I read Angel I tried to do a bit of research on these women. I also read Under Two Flags, which is truly, truly awful. And I read Dell's The Way of an Eagle, which is even worse. They were so bad I couldn't face trying any of Corelli's work.Christine Hardinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09814026435889782750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-17760232477348528702014-12-03T09:32:42.882+00:002014-12-03T09:32:42.882+00:00Ah. Perhaps I'll have to try a different one.....Ah. Perhaps I'll have to try a different one... I've never heard of her and love the sound of this. The great thing is to be as fussy about your tosh as you are about your classics, and I think, in all modesty, that I am. Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-68250422063747838362014-12-03T06:12:57.514+00:002014-12-03T06:12:57.514+00:00You're taking one for the team here - well don...You're taking one for the team here - well done. I too love toshy books - I can't remember if I mentioned a Big Find this year in this area, namely Mrs Georgie Sheldon. She wrote serial novels, and the basic plot of all is poor but lovely young girl forced into drudgery/employment and young honourable man with whom something has gone wrong - many mistakes and mishaps - masses of travel - lost and found fortunes - eventual happy ending. And loads of high emotion, with titles like True Love's Reward. There are a lot available as free e-books and I was having a great time devouring them until I hit one where the plot was a love story / medical miracle based on the principles of Christian Science. Hmmm. I was cured. skiourophilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08200877834536477400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-89420794313235887922014-12-02T21:10:51.307+00:002014-12-02T21:10:51.307+00:00So often there are treasures among those forgotten...So often there are treasures among those forgotten dusty novels - I suppose there has to be duds too, and this was certainly one of them. I can be proud to have saved other people the trouble....Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-87240693773119790302014-12-02T20:39:40.180+00:002014-12-02T20:39:40.180+00:00I might easily have had a go at this, Moira, so th...I might easily have had a go at this, Moira, so thank you for saving me from myself! It does sound truly dire.Christinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16510409974009816550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-56521251643843563552014-12-02T20:37:45.992+00:002014-12-02T20:37:45.992+00:00Fantastic! I wanted to go into the whole question ...Fantastic! I wanted to go into the whole question of vivandieres (who have fascinated me ever since I first read Little Women many many years ago) but it was just a step too far, and now you have done a much better job anyway - I have added a note above.Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-89835233677795943602014-12-02T20:31:00.584+00:002014-12-02T20:31:00.584+00:00Really impressed Prashant, you are the only person...Really impressed Prashant, you are the only person I've found who has read her! I don't usually review books I don't like, but I made an exception in this case (partly because Ouida is not going to have her feelings hurt by my mean words....)Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-21934068031938913872014-12-02T18:20:16.564+00:002014-12-02T18:20:16.564+00:00I actually have written three blog posts on vivand...I actually have written three blog posts on vivandieres for my work blog!<br /><br />http://www.vam.ac.uk/blog/factory-presents/vivandieres-part-1Daniel Milford-Cottamhttp://facebook.com/danielmilfordcottamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-15771425689564440852014-12-02T15:48:39.505+00:002014-12-02T15:48:39.505+00:00Moira, I have actually heard of the author Oudia, ...Moira, I have actually heard of the author Oudia, a pseudonym for English novelist Maria Louise Ramé, and even read and reviewed her tragic story A DOG OF FLANDERS, but that's about it. I think this is one of the rare occasions when you didn't like a book you read.Prashant C. Trikannadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16079354501998741758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-15092565418662087362014-12-02T11:34:14.499+00:002014-12-02T11:34:14.499+00:00George Eliot is a fascinating person, very interes...George Eliot is a fascinating person, very interesting life.Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-88201417036827849382014-12-02T09:53:23.096+00:002014-12-02T09:53:23.096+00:00That is hilarious. Maybe you should write some fi...That is hilarious. Maybe you should write some fiction with all of those dramatic touches init.<br /><br />This post led me to read more about George Eliot, although I have done so in the past. I think it's great that she became a rationalist and countered her upbringing. Wish I knew more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-87969126913327106032014-12-02T09:19:48.887+00:002014-12-02T09:19:48.887+00:00I think you are a person who has those big importa...I think you are a person who has those big important feelings about honour and shame, and WHAT a pity you didn't get the chance to face a firing squad, be saved at the last minute, love your horse more than your family etc. You were born out of your time....Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-86899751050577073482014-12-02T09:18:20.573+00:002014-12-02T09:18:20.573+00:00Yes - I tend to think of the Victorian writers as ...Yes - I tend to think of the Victorian writers as one big group, but it was such a long period that things changed a lot. And I think the 1860s must have been an important decade. Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-88135153673887885552014-12-02T09:17:27.308+00:002014-12-02T09:17:27.308+00:00My job is done, Bill, I feel I have saved everyone...My job is done, Bill, I feel I have saved everyone. Even people like you, who wouldn't have read her anyway. Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-17923949769467196052014-12-02T09:16:56.483+00:002014-12-02T09:16:56.483+00:00You're probably right to leave it there.... I&...You're probably right to leave it there.... I'm glad to have read it for curiosity's sake, but also glad I don't need to bother with any more by her....Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-89764171772335032292014-12-02T09:09:22.071+00:002014-12-02T09:09:22.071+00:00I don't understand. It doesn't sound snobb...I don't understand. It doesn't sound snobbish, imperialistic or misogynistic at all. I think the fact that he loves his horse more than a beautiful woman is very British and we should be very proud of our equine loving heritage. Still, your effort of reading the book so I wouldn't have to has all been in vain - I wouldn't have read it anyway.steve mitchellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-65437714000165048742014-12-02T07:48:29.398+00:002014-12-02T07:48:29.398+00:00This is one time I'll say I'm glad you rea...This is one time I'll say I'm glad you read it so I don't have to. I'll gladly skip this one.<br /><br />But, am so glad you reminded us of the great books that came out in the 1860s and afterwards, too. Such a rich period of social and political ferment, science, philosophy, and good writing. Must delve more into this period.<br /><br />I think about the 1890s and what was happening in Europe, but rarely go back to the 1860s. And George Eliot, what a forward-thinking woman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-5713271424545214272014-12-02T07:08:11.091+00:002014-12-02T07:08:11.091+00:00Moira: Great. It is hard for me to think why I wou...Moira: Great. It is hard for me to think why I would have read the book even before your review but withy your wonderful photo and review I am saved from reading the book! Bill Selneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17268006369157307593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-56780523236263210822014-12-02T00:53:33.793+00:002014-12-02T00:53:33.793+00:00Thank you for the plot summary. I purchased a repr...Thank you for the plot summary. I purchased a reprint of this novel out of curiousity about Ouida an author I had heard off. The book remains unfinished on my bookcase and will no doubt remain so. Definitely of it's period.<br /><br />Stephen Barkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-78050826031750331462014-12-01T13:37:46.617+00:002014-12-01T13:37:46.617+00:00Thanks Margot - on the whole I don't review bo...Thanks Margot - on the whole I don't review books if I dislike them this much - I wouldn't if it were a living author (unless it was one so successful as to not need to care about opinions.) But in this case it was SO bad as to be interesting, and I for one have always known there was a popular writer called Ouida. I thought there might be others like me who wanted to know about her books....Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-1384758173469540492014-12-01T12:52:44.100+00:002014-12-01T12:52:44.100+00:00Moira - No need to hold back on our account; I'...Moira - No need to hold back on our account; I'd love to know what you really thought of this ;-). In all seriousness, just the snippet you shared was enough to put me off the book - such '-isms' there! No, this is not at all one that I'll put on my TBR. You should now take a well-deserved rest after that cherry-picking. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-90545535961143519872014-12-01T12:03:22.725+00:002014-12-01T12:03:22.725+00:00Total agreement this time - it was NOT a good book...Total agreement this time - it was NOT a good book. Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-52817161476046997832014-12-01T11:29:58.112+00:002014-12-01T11:29:58.112+00:00Hmm.....I think you can guess my response :-)Hmm.....I think you can guess my response :-)col2910https://www.blogger.com/profile/06422138069939709043noreply@blogger.com