How boring is sailing?

The Sunken Sailor by Patricia Moyes

aka Down Among the Dead Men (in USA)

published 1961

 

 

This was the second of Patricia Moyes’ crime books featuring Henry and Emmy Tibbett. The first, Dead Men Don’t Ski, 1959, is  here on the blog.

Both of them have excellent, enticing, titles. Both revolve round a hobby or pastime, and have – in my view – far too much detail about something. In Ski it is the timetable of the skilift, which I reproduced in the post. Here is it sailing, and the phrase dull as ditchwater has never been more appropriate.

I enjoyed Ski much more in fact – this one got completely lost in the sailing details and the boom and the tides and the dinghys. I found it difficult to distinguish among the various boring male characters, and Moyes does surprisingly little with the female characters. There is a very cliched young minx character, an old drunken woman who makes no sense, and a great friend of the Tibbetts who has zero character.

This is Anne, the minx:

She was a tiny slip of a girl: indeed, with her cropped dark hair and faded blue jeans, she might almost have been taken for a schoolboy, were it not for a certain very definite femininity of contour that even a sweater several sizes too large could not hide. She was as brown as honey, and her green eyes — ^which slanted upwards as delicately as a cat's — sparkled with high spirits and a zest for life which was immensely attractive. She had, Henry decided, the miniature perfection of a Japanese girl, without the latter's doll-like fragility. In fact, even as he admired, the thought crossed his mind. This girl's like a nut — smooth and brown and sweet and hard.



I always have issues about Emmy-as-doormat  - featured in this overview post and in the recent post on Moyes’ Who is Simon Warwick? That one incited the recent long list of questionmark titles, but also brought this book to my attention in the comments, Jotell saying the early Moyes books were best – a difference of opinion! Here – as in Warwick – Emmy gets into difficulties, and Henry behaves in a quite extraordinary way. Can’t say much for spoilers.

Maybe people who like sailing will get on well with Sunken Sailor. But for me there was far too much of this:

The dusk was deepening fast as Ariadne swung round Steep Hill Point. "Harden sheets," called Alastair. Henry pulled on the jib sheet as the boat swung broadside on to the wind. At once, she heeled over smartly, and tossed up a spurt of spray over her bows, which caught Henry neatly in the back of the neck.



But there were also better moments – the local poshos are Sir Simon and his sister Priscilla, and Henry is chatting…

"I know," said Sir Simon, suddenly, "that fellows like Benson and Rawnsley don't agree with me, but to my way of thinking, Priscilla's the great beauty in Berrybridge. Not as young as she was, perhaps, but I'd back her against these jazzy modern types any day. Do you agree?"

For one hysterical moment, Henry thought that Sir Simon was talking about his sister. Then, in the nick of time, he saw that the motor launch had the name Priscilla picked out in brass letters on her stern.

“She’s lovely,” he said sincerely.

The plot takes in a jewel robbery and  a hunt ball in the past – features I always like, but they don’t feature enough.

I read the UK version, and didn’t have much clue as to who was who. I then looked at a US edition (with the alternate title, Down Among the Dead Men) which had one of those weird character lists at the beginning:

COLIN STREET— The quick-witted owner of the Mary Jane. What had Pete Rawnsley taken from him that made him murderously mad?

ANNE PETRIE— The pretty green-eyed mate on the Mary Jane. Was Pete Rawnsley the man she really loved . . . and was she the last to see him alive?

…AND WHY HAD THEY ALL DECIDED TO LIE?

Which read very oddly, but certainly would have helped.

Top picture from Vivat Vintage.  A good 10 years earlier and not remotely looking like jolly times in Essex, but I did like the picture.

Similarly the woman on deck – right era but perhaps too fashionable. But definitely an air of the minx-y Anne.  From a great favourite source, Florida Memories.

The chap at the wheel is the right era, 1961, but is in the Bahamas and generally looks a lot more carefree than British sailors might be.  Again, Florida Memories.

Comments

  1. Still not tempted by Patricia Moyes!

    I think Sarah Caudwell was probably a sailor and there’s a fair bit of sailing in “The Shortest Way to Hades”, but she provides the technical details the reader needs (eg about what constitutes the deck on a small boat, and the effect of transistor radios on compasses) and no more. It’s one of those pastimes that sounds delightful in theory …

    Sovay

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    1. I loved reading Swallows & Amazons books when I was young, but would have hated their adventures in real life, and have never had any interest in sailing IRL.
      I do like Moyes' Murder a la Mode - fashion, magazine and Paris shows, I'm just more at home wit that.

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    2. Same here with “Swallows and Amazons” – I enjoyed both the Lake District and Norfolk strands, would have hated to have to join in!

      I’ll keep an eye out for “Murder à la Mode”.

      Sovay

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    3. I had this terrible feeling that I would have been the kind of feeble child the Ss & As would have despised....

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  2. It is interesting to see different social mores in different books. This one has an unmarried couple sleeping in the same small boat without raising any eyebrows, if I remember correctly.

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    1. Yes, I think it's left to the reader to decide whether they are taking it further - they very much ave their own sleeping bags! But it is definitely implied that Anne is a free spirit, pushing for an open relationship, in quite a modern way. Even though the author plainly doesn't approve of all her ways.

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  3. I have definitely read this and not so long ago, but can't really remember much about it. On the whole, I find her plots unmemorable. They have tended to blur into one a bit. Chrissie

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    1. I think how I react to her individual books is definitely to do with me and my interests - which is fair enough. She's good when she's good.

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  4. There was one Moyes book where Emmy was a more active participant, Johnny Under Ground. It helps that the case is linked to a missing presumed dead incident at an air base in World War 2 when Emmy had been serving there as a WAAF. We also learn her maiden name was Blandish and that she flirted (we are told innocently?!) with a married senior officer. My copy was one of the Arcturus Crime Classic editions, and I don't recall any duds among my purchases of those, so perhaps the book was better than most of the series anyway.

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    1. I agree! I liked Johnny Under Ground and thought it one of the best of her books. I looked at it in a general post here: https://clothesinbooks.blogspot.com/2018/04/tnc-great-detectives-mid-century-sleuths.html
      -- I think we definitely agree on it

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    2. Yes, this one I do remember and thought it was good - I have got the Arcturus Crime Classic edition, too. Chrissie

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  5. I enjoyed and reread several times all the Swallows & Amazon books without yearning to sail (or camp) but it wasn't until I tried to read S&A to my nephews that I realized I must have skipped over most of the sailing bits. They were excruciatingly dull to read aloud and when I looked up from the book once and saw both boys had disappeared, I moved on to The Black Stallion. I never yearned to ride horseback either but it was a lot more lively!

    I like those character lists (unless the appearance of characters is a spoiler) and the book I am reading now would have benefitted from one!

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    1. Ahhhh, The Black Stallion--how I loved those books when I was growing up! One of my favorite childhood fantasies was having a horse like The Black, although I was never a "horse person" in real life. And no technical details to get hung up on!

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    2. How can I have missed the Black Stallion books altogether? Never heard of them. Just took a look at the details online. An American thing I guess?
      Character lists can add to a book - but sometimes they come across (like some blurbs) as if whoever wrote them had not actually read the book. Yes, I like referring back : so they are no good on Kindle really...

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    3. The Black Stallion rings a faint bell – by Walter Farley? I’ve almost certainly read it, though never really got into US horsy books – I remember enjoying “My Friend Flicka” but not finishing the sequel.

      Sovay

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    4. I have vague memories of a film of The Black Stallion on children's television.
      Are UK children's horsey books aimed at girls and US ones at boys, perhaps?

      - Roger

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    5. I remember seeing the Flicka books. And when we were in US there was a book called Misty of Chincoteague? but horses not for me so much.
      Roger - a very interesting point. I do remember Champion The Wonder Horse on children's TV - I think an American import

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    6. Sovay, yes, Walter Farley was the author. I agree about the sequel to Flicka, it wasn't as good.
      Roger, I don't think of the original film as only for children. I think a lot of adults have enjoyed it because it's a beautiful film, and appeals to the underdog in some of us. There was a sequel that not surprisingly wasn't of the same quality. Lots of girls in the US are horse-crazy so I don't think our books are aimed mainly at boys, although the best known ones generally have male protagonists.

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    7. I can't think of many UK horse books with male protagonists - amyone?

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    8. My recollection is that UK pony books with an ensemble cast (eg Josephine Pullein-Thomson’s West Barsetshire series) had plenty of significant male characters, but where there was a single main protagonist it tended to be a girl - I can’t offhand think of any with a male protagonist.

      Sovay

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    9. I remember reading a "Timber Trail Riders" series which had both boys and girls as protagonists, but most of my horse-and-human associations are from cowboy shows and movies! Roy Rogers' wife, Dale Evans, had a horse named Buttermilk but they played second fiddle to Roy and his horse, Trigger. Maybe it was just a reflection of our culture that lead characters were male. I know that it was generally thought that women couldn't sustain leads on TV shows. (Loretta Young and Barbara Stanwyck begged to differ!)

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    10. Sovay, yes that sounds right.
      Marty, the cowboy shows I remember not only lacked female main characters, but were quite short of women generally! Those Bonanza boys, great hulking grown up chaps all living together, a few sisters would have helped it along. High Chaparral and The Virginian similar.

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    11. I thought a male pony book protagonist had floated to the surface overnight – in Josephine P-T’s “Prince Among Ponies” – on further investigation, it looks like he and his sister are fairly equal protagonists but she’s the POV character. Of course the protagonist of the original horse-centred novel, “Black Beauty”, is male!

      I think the Western tradition in the US must have an influence on horsy literature – horses and riding are still associated with a very traditional masculine working role. Whereas even by the 1930s in the UK, riding was becoming more and more a leisure activity and a bit of an indulgence.

      High Chaparral ... haven't thought of that for years! I used to have a bit of a thing for the Mexican brother-in-law whose name now escapes me.

      Sovay

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    12. While I don't think it made it to the UK, Barbara Stanwyck was the lead in a US cowboy show, The Big Valley, with Linda Evans (later of Dallas) among the main characters. Still, it was Stanwyck who, during her career, was often the exception that tested the rule.
      I recall many of the same shows, and my recollection is that, normally, the only woman in the main cast was playing the mother.

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    13. Sovay: yes, good point about the cowboy tradition. Different in UK - another mother, with much older daughters than mine, said to me 'you must get your daughter into horse-riding. It keeps them away from boys till quite an advanced age', which I still think is hilarious. (We didn't go there, so don't know if it's true!)
      Oh yes. High Chaparral. I had a massive crush, and even remember the names: Manolito, played by Henry Darrow!
      Adrian: We did have The Big Valley, I nearly mentioned it earlier when Barbara S was mentioned. I think ITV was much more regionalized then, it could have been that we had it in the NW and others didn't. She made a big impression on me, she dressed like a certain kind of C&W star (see, my early interest in fictional clothes) - those very decorated denim shirts, wide culottes, cowboy boots, gloves. I assumed she was just another actress, and remember my mother telling me she was a big movie star.
      There's a story about The Virginian - I may have details wrong. Someone was brought on board with it with the news that it was going to be very inlusive - women and hispanics or Native Americans part of the main cast. So the matriarch was going to be an important person, powerful, Mexican. Duly cast.
      Then she was murdered in the first episode... I think by Native Americans.

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    14. I remember the "Cartwright Wife Curse" of Bonanza....If one of the "boys" happened to get married, you knew the poor bride would be dead by the end of the episode! Ditto with the three wives of father Ben, each had a flashback episode that ended with her death! Apparently the leads had to remain single for their various romantic attachments. Marital infidelity was strictly out of the question on our TV's in those faraway days! BTW, Linda Evans was on Dynasty not Dallas, pretty much the same thing really except Dynasty was glitzier--"good" wives were overshadowed by "bad" women who were actually more interesting anyway!

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    15. Yes Adrian, "Miss Barbara Stanwyck" (as The Big Valley's opening credits called her) was a standout throughout her career. Like Moira I was unaware of her film career at first. Imagine my shock when I saw upright matriarch "Victoria Barkley" in movies like Ball of Fire and The Lady Eve!

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    16. Marty - The Lady Eve in particular is one of my favourite films - also noteworthy for having a horse interrupting a proposal of marriage. She was also noted for some pre-code films, which really pushed the envelope- Baby Face was especially notorious as her character used her charms to get promotion. Remarkable even for that era for having Nietzsche quoted at her as a justification for her career and having her best friend being a person of colour.
      At least two women I met at college and at work testified to the truth of horse riding putting off interest in boys. Ponies apparently were a lot more tolerant of being groomed and didn't mind so much about being taught that the rider was in charge.

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    17. Thank you Marty and Adrian for this wonderful discussion!

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  6. I like her books, Murder a La Mode is my favourite. I don’t mind the technical detail,I find it quite interesting.

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    1. My favourite too, there are a couple of very enthusiastic blog posts.

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    2. Pity you didn't like it more. I admit I enjoyed the whole sailing aspect, despite the fact that I haven't spent a single minute on a jolle or maybe because of that. But I read the book 15 years ago; perhaps it was better in my memory than it actually is.

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    3. I am still very grateful for the recommendation! I am slowly working my way through her books... and I certainly never regret reading, despite whatever snarky comments I make. What should I read next?

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  7. That last photo reminds me of Cary Grant in the film Father Goose!

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    1. Yes I see what you mean! a great favourite film of mine in the past, I don't know what I'd make of it now.

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    2. His character would probably strike me as pretty awful now, although CG might be able to get some comedy out of it.

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    3. Yes, that's what I'm worried about!

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    4. This reminded me of a slightly guilty pleasure - “The Art of Coarse Sailing” by Michael Green (author of “The Art of Coarse Acting” which has featured on Clothes in Books) in which he and some friends enjoy a sailing holiday on the Norfolk Broads. Very, very much of its time (1962) but still makes me laugh. It’s fully understood that women who agree to go sailing with men are going to spend their holiday cooking, whilst the men do the interesting boaty stuff.

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    5. I don't think I've read that one, but I can just imagine. Very like an amusing rewrite of this book! Michael Green truly could make me laugh more than most other writers, he was so clever and funny.

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    6. If you enjoy Michael Green I’d definitely recommend this one. I am of course officially OUTRAGED at the sexist stereotyping, but have to admit that if I were forced to participate in a sailing holiday I’d opt for the cooking rather than the boaty stuff every time. Incidentally, re: Johan’s comment higher up, the characters include a young single woman sharing a small boat with two single men, and here too no eyebrows are raised.

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    7. I can put up with a lot for a really funny book. And Michael Green just sounded like such a nice man...

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  8. I'm amazed! The Swallows and Amazons books definitely had an effect on me and I tried my best to get into sailing, not very successfully though. I have a lifelong affection for it in books. There are limits to the amount of technical detail I require, though.

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    1. I can remember struggling with the more technical sections of S&A books - while still enjoying them - and feeling that I would be no good at it in real life.

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  9. Glad to see Arthur Ransome getting lots of comments in the comments. I enjoyed his books just fine, but I do remember reading something where it was said that kids growing up in the mid-late 20th century were more likely to gravitate more towards Just William or Swallows and Amazons. I kinda get it, I'd say I was definitely the Just William gravitator, even though I also enjoyed S&A.

    Enid Blyton also wrote a few books about sailing but I don't really remember much about them.

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    1. Interesting - I liked Just William fine, but would always have chose S & A, and school stories.
      I can almost see in my mind's eye an Enid Blyton book with children in a small boat on the cover, but no idea what. The Boat of Adventure? The Famous Five Afloat? (I have just made them up)

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    2. Didn’t George of the Famous Five have not only her own boat but her own island? Kirrin Island - I’m sure I remember them spending at least one holiday camping there.

      Sovay

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    3. I think you're probably right - certainly Kirrin Island was a thing - that was her name wasn't it, George Kirrin?

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    4. Yep, George Kirrin. It was a rowboat rather than a proper sailboat, though. Quite a few of Blyton's stories involved rowing boats, I also remember the Secrets series started out with abused kids escaping their horrible uncle and aunt to a secret island on a rowboat.

      I think the sailboat one was a group of four kids, maybe two were identical twin girls? - there might have been two books with the same characters but it definitely didn't take off in the way that the Secret Seven, Famous Five, Five Find-Outers, ...of Adventure, and Secret of... books did.

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    5. It's not as if it's easy to look up which book one is thinking about with Blyton! Just too many of them. there is a very good website, Enid Blyton Society maybe, which I have found helpful in the past.

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