tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post6882234101114186461..comments2024-03-28T20:46:22.875+00:00Comments on Clothes In Books: So what should we be wearing, Louisa May Alcott?Clothes In Bookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-89107999921875700712023-01-29T20:25:07.575+00:002023-01-29T20:25:07.575+00:00Thanks so much for dropping by, and for this very ...Thanks so much for dropping by, and for this very helpful information. I love meeting others who are equally fascinated by clothes in history and clothes in books. Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-60418853952416888692023-01-18T19:16:34.857+00:002023-01-18T19:16:34.857+00:00I found this post because I had a similar question...I found this post because I had a similar question about the "Gabrielle" dress. I found that in the 1870's it was another name for the polonaise. I believe that, in the above illustration, the two marked out as Gabrielle dresses are done so because the bodices are a bit closer fitting, with a suit jacket vest look to them. See this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polonaise_(clothing) under "19th century usage and revival" and again at note#13<br /><br />Thanks or this post! 8 cousins just popped into my brain recently, and as a historical costumer, I always wanted to recreate what I remembered as the heroine's "robin red-breast" look.<br />Brooke NAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-8556924406762919452022-08-09T09:40:11.043+01:002022-08-09T09:40:11.043+01:00Thanks so much Monique, that is a really interesti...Thanks so much Monique, that is a really interesting article. Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-9518730786457057272022-08-08T17:46:45.358+01:002022-08-08T17:46:45.358+01:00Not sure if I included the reference in my comment...Not sure if I included the reference in my comment. <br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_dress_reformMonique Guayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04828868837809800061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-34363201415018315712022-08-08T17:45:47.890+01:002022-08-08T17:45:47.890+01:00I found this and it talked about the bloomer suit ...I found this and it talked about the bloomer suit and other clothing reforms. This author Louisa May Alcott was writing of these reform ideas in real time back in her day. Monique Guayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04828868837809800061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-84947755250188726482022-06-28T08:30:20.044+01:002022-06-28T08:30:20.044+01:00Thank you for coming by - I love it when people fi...Thank you for coming by - I love it when people find this post after all this time and are interested. A very interesting defence of the plotline, if I re-read the book I will certainly bear that in mind. And I'm guessing that for a young person reading it there are no problems, I imagine I would have been the same.<br /><br />I did try to investigate actual writings on the topic of the time, but didn't get very far. It might be easier to find now - so much is online, and I am better at researching. I can see I AM going to end up re-reading, for several reasons. Thanks again!<br /><br />Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-44436681940955201142022-06-25T16:26:32.190+01:002022-06-25T16:26:32.190+01:00I too came by just now because I am re-reading &qu...I too came by just now because I am re-reading "Eight Cousins" and wondered what a Gabrielle suit actually looks like!<br /><br />I must point out that Rose's "choice" of Uncle Alec at the end of the book is because at the beginning, Uncle Alec makes a bargain with the six aunts that he will, as her legal guardian, raise her according to his own ideas for one year, and if he is not successful -- that is, if Rose is not a healthier, happier girl -- then the aunts may take over. Naturally, at the end of the year, Rose chooses Uncle Alec! because clearly he embodies all of Alcott's ideas about the benefits of fresh air and exercise for everyone (especially children), education, dress reform, etc. etc. There is an extended scene in the last chapter in which the young cousins each try to persuade Rose to choose their own respective mothers (who is of course one of Rose's aunts). It seems to me that if you read the last part with the first in mind, it's quite a sensible choice, as although Rose is very fond of the motherly Aunt Jessie in particular (and goes to Jessie for motherly advice and affection numerous times throughout the book), she never really knew her own mother, but misses her father dreadfully, and Uncle Alec is the closest to a father that she has.<br /><br />I feel a little defensive of the book, as I loved it from the first reading umpteen years ago! although re-reading it now, I can't help thinking that it's awfully preachy at times, much more than "Little Women". Poor Rose doesn't even get to wear her late mother's modest earrings, as she "sacrifices" her newly-pierced ears which Uncle Alec (and the seven male cousins) thinks are a "girlish vanity" and of a piece with tight-lacing and the vapors. Oh dear!<br /><br />But thanks for hunting down images of a Gabrielle dress! I agree that it doesn't look much different than the beruffled fashion plates. I wonder if the book that Uncle Alec has, describing the "freedom suit," is a real book ...?Jeannehttps://mathomhouse.typepad.com/bluestocking/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-36943039929511923982022-05-20T09:47:57.371+01:002022-05-20T09:47:57.371+01:00I have added pictures of the Gabrielle dress above...I have added pictures of the Gabrielle dress above!Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-74239838228891452142022-05-20T09:42:21.017+01:002022-05-20T09:42:21.017+01:00I love it when people find old posts of mine abou...I love it when people find old posts of mine about books they love! I didn't come across the book at all till I was an adult, despite being a huge fan of Little Women.<br />I found a reference to a Gabrielle dress in an old pattern book, but it just looked like any other dress, I couldn't see what defined it as a Gabrielle...<br /><br />A sack (also sacque) is a loose fitting coat with no waist - what you'd guess really! There is also sack jacket or dress. Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-50051593857534567732022-05-19T15:02:31.570+01:002022-05-19T15:02:31.570+01:00What is a Gabrielle dress? And is a sack a coat? (...What is a Gabrielle dress? And is a sack a coat? (I loved this book growing up, better than Little Women)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-84107132424207624542022-03-06T18:01:55.846+00:002022-03-06T18:01:55.846+00:00Hello, and thanks for coming to comment. It is a l...Hello, and thanks for coming to comment. It is a long time since I posted this, and a long time since I read the book. We may take different thoughts from the book. While reading it (as an adult) I would try to judge it by the standards of its own time, but could not help finding some aspects of the plot strange and discomfiting.<br /><br />The trope of an older man taking a paternal interest in a young girl -whether an uncle or not - is indeed familiar. And then there is Daddy Long Legs...Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-57523168320195888962022-03-05T02:05:09.267+00:002022-03-05T02:05:09.267+00:00I approve of the dress though I disagree about the...I approve of the dress though I disagree about the mother/daughter idea. <br /><br />In fact I hadn't even thought of it till I read it. I still can't see it as a plausible theory. As far as I can tell, the uncle was never estranged, just didn't get along with every single one of his multitude of sisters. And the long lost uncle trope is a pretty common one in older YA books. <br /><br />Seems a bit of a reach. I'd be interested to know why it struck you that way Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17558555473855697992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-55295094864829414712020-11-21T16:51:04.633+00:002020-11-21T16:51:04.633+00:00Oh dear, how very uncomfortable. Isn't there a...Oh dear, how very uncomfortable. Isn't there also a Hardy poem about a similar story? - he was obviously intrigued by the idea.There's a story of someone going to the funeral of their first love, and meeting her daughter at the funeral, and ending up marrying her... I can't track down in my head where that came from, but feel there was a Hardy connection.Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-11564156007845195272020-11-13T14:33:58.428+00:002020-11-13T14:33:58.428+00:00Thomas Hardy's "The Well Beloved" ta...Thomas Hardy's "The Well Beloved" takes the obsession through three generations! Citronyellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05756931188297902463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-15965972121001981422019-03-13T08:55:46.661+00:002019-03-13T08:55:46.661+00:00Yikes... Yikes... Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-33537370753368798532019-03-11T18:07:57.715+00:002019-03-11T18:07:57.715+00:00It's even creepier since I remembered that bot...It's even creepier since I remembered that both mother and daughter had the same name!!! *shudders*Auroranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-10301628931285344562019-03-10T22:16:41.718+00:002019-03-10T22:16:41.718+00:00Isn't it a weird trope, something you'd th...Isn't it a weird trope, something you'd think wouldn't be a plot idea or a real life thing EVER, but turns up just often enough to be disquieting... Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-22010585123435109462019-03-07T22:29:29.468+00:002019-03-07T22:29:29.468+00:00There was a L.M. Montgomery short story in which a...There was a L.M. Montgomery short story in which a man had been in love with a young woman, she married someone else, and then he later met her after her husband had died, leaving her a widow with a youngish daughter (I think she was about ten?) He helped raise the daughter and eventually married her. At fifteen or so, this slid right past me, but as an adult it's really, really creepy.Auroranoreply@blogger.com