tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post5194795992079060198..comments2024-03-28T09:33:29.705+00:00Comments on Clothes In Books: Twelfth Night: Peter's Room by Antonia ForestClothes In Bookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-29917648249341263232020-10-01T14:02:36.308+01:002020-10-01T14:02:36.308+01:00Yes, Forest made her wait for good things. Her tri...Yes, Forest made her wait for good things. Her tribulations used to upset me a lot when I was a young reader. Plots made to demonstrate that self-pity was a bad thing, and that Nick worked hard not to show any.Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-64226973351052043662020-09-26T10:47:16.366+01:002020-09-26T10:47:16.366+01:00Nicola gets a bad run quite often, alas. Nicola gets a bad run quite often, alas. Larkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07789035875748890633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-9294210222578255622014-01-11T22:10:57.698+00:002014-01-11T22:10:57.698+00:00It's such an interesting little sociological t...It's such an interesting little sociological topic - I think now would questions of fashion come into the party dress area? There's never a hint that any of the girls could object to a dress on those grounds. And, poor Lawrie and Nicola wearing a different colour uniform from everyone else.... Upper middle is probably a good guess, but still, as you say, not as much money and luxury as a much more down-market family these days - and servants and private schools. I always wondered what Mrs Marlow did all day - Mrs Bertie and Doris did the cooking and the children seemed to do the other chores.Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-3339734676340161252014-01-11T21:47:59.156+00:002014-01-11T21:47:59.156+00:00My younger niece wears party dresses (and other cl...My younger niece wears party dresses (and other clothes) passed down from her 3 years older sister - their father is a well paid professional and probably better off than my parents were at the same stage. That said, the Marlows are clearly socially a few notches up - said nieces got to the local primary and will never be attending a school like Kingscote and I suspect Captain Marlow has some "private income" from investments. I see them as more lower-upper class in some ways than middle class - maybe upper middle at a push? My younger cousin, who had the dresses after me as a child, buys her children new clothes but then she has one of each. The only clothes she ever had new were her knickers and school uniform, I think. Party dresses survive being passed down best - less likely to be worn out and often no elbows to wear out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-88711588143622757732014-01-07T21:36:43.753+00:002014-01-07T21:36:43.753+00:00Tracy, I think I like these books because I read t...Tracy, I think I like these books because I read them when I was younger, I might not be inclined to start on them now. I think we all had our own problems in our teen years - reading books certainly helped me get through them... And I NEVER felt I was wearing the right clothes! Perhaps that's why I'm so fascinated by them now...Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-71895186268359145852014-01-07T20:12:50.355+00:002014-01-07T20:12:50.355+00:00Maybe my childhood and teen years were too painful...Maybe my childhood and teen years were too painful but I am not inspired to read about those things. I actually had a "happy" childhood and wonderful parents, but was very shy. Among other things. TracyKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08303342674824383688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-48813279962028023412014-01-07T16:54:37.633+00:002014-01-07T16:54:37.633+00:00I wasn't saying you were wrong, I just wondere...I wasn't saying you were wrong, I just wondered if Canada went with US or UK in this instance! I'm glad you recognized these 'fancy' dresses as they are Canadian..Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-82748977545602441632014-01-07T16:23:31.007+00:002014-01-07T16:23:31.007+00:00How nice to hear from someone who obviously knows ...How nice to hear from someone who obviously knows the books well - the relationship between Lawrie and Nicola is very well done. I don't think party dresses would be passed down like this in a well-off middle class family these days, what do you think?Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-64117482372422001282014-01-07T05:43:31.482+00:002014-01-07T05:43:31.482+00:00Moira: Now those are fancy dresses. The older girl...Moira: Now those are fancy dresses. The older girls were wearing them when I was a pre-teen. A few days ago I agree I should have said a costume ball as you suggested.Bill Selneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17268006369157307593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-195826740442669632014-01-06T22:10:45.772+00:002014-01-06T22:10:45.772+00:00Lawrie has a way of making life difficult for othe...Lawrie has a way of making life difficult for others if she doesn't get her way. Nicola is probably being sacrificed by the others to ensure a half-way bearable evening at the very least. I have five older girl cousins and spent a lot of my childhood in ten year old pass me downs, so can sympathise with Nicola! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-1746832825635922482014-01-06T20:40:32.239+00:002014-01-06T20:40:32.239+00:00It's an endlessly fascinating subject isn'...It's an endlessly fascinating subject isn't it - girls and their self-esteem, their dresses, what they're hoping to project. And of course, what we think of how they look so many years later...Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-84172330388315341862014-01-06T19:18:25.622+00:002014-01-06T19:18:25.622+00:00Moira - Those girls really do look so much older t...Moira - Those girls really do look so much older than they are. I've also seen 'photos from yearbooks and other sources of the day - they're much the same. What <i>did</i> possess those girls to want to look so much like their mothers? Oh, well...<br /><br />I think that description of Nicola's feelings about her face and the dress she has to wear are so authentic. I don't believe I've ever met a teen who was really happy about the way s/he looked, and that shows that insecurity so well. Also such a good reminder of how often multiple siblings made do with hand-me-ups/overs/downs...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-71094614178214846982014-01-06T15:55:28.454+00:002014-01-06T15:55:28.454+00:00(started to answer this, then went off to look at ...(started to answer this, then went off to look at OMGthatdress and have spent half an hour there, what an amazing blog). The girls in the picture - well, they obviously feel they've done their best, there's no hint of shyness or lack of self-confidence is there?Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-63057006941104232842014-01-06T15:36:37.930+00:002014-01-06T15:36:37.930+00:00I know - I looked and looked at them, I think in t...I know - I looked and looked at them, I think in those days young women just really wanted to look like their mothers, whereas our daughters couldn't imagine anything worse...Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-48832764339221514502014-01-06T15:10:37.681+00:002014-01-06T15:10:37.681+00:00Oh dear... I don't know if it's being a C...Oh dear... I don't know if it's being a Canadian that caused the wince reaction or just having looked at the "OMGthatdress" blog which has a series of Dior dresses from the '50s. As my mother would have said... "You're not going to a party wearing THAT, are you?" We don't really have a "non-u" usage here, but buying evening dresses from the Eaton's catalogue (a popular mail-order department store) should have been enough to start one.Ken Nyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08838597854722716546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-6851099649681677102014-01-06T13:54:13.743+00:002014-01-06T13:54:13.743+00:00"The young women in the photo are going to a ..."The young women in the photo are going to a teenage dance party"..........are they gatecrashing? With the possible exception of the one in the middle they all look so much older. <br />Not one for me - well done again!col2910https://www.blogger.com/profile/06422138069939709043noreply@blogger.com