tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post1587081529156505285..comments2024-03-28T20:46:22.875+00:00Comments on Clothes In Books: Dress Down Sunday: Miss Silver’s KnickersClothes In Bookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-37312907139847382222015-08-18T10:36:13.234+01:002015-08-18T10:36:13.234+01:00Thanks Ann - I think I have a feel for the express...Thanks Ann - I think I have a feel for the expression without being able to explain it clearly, and you did a great job. Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-60336734999521673672015-08-09T08:18:44.861+01:002015-08-09T08:18:44.861+01:00"To pay for dressing" conveys the sense ..."To pay for dressing" conveys the sense that unlike pretty young things who can throw on any old collection of garments and look all right, the subject needs to put some care and thought into finding the styles -- tailored, lacy, fluffy, simple -- and the colors which are most becoming. Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05265595595318070025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-45154670178295528572015-04-28T16:05:56.058+01:002015-04-28T16:05:56.058+01:00Funny how these things stay with you! I will bear ...Funny how these things stay with you! I will bear the story idea in mind.Christinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16510409974009816550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-79023793262049506572015-04-27T20:22:35.839+01:002015-04-27T20:22:35.839+01:00That's a strangely affecting story about your ...That's a strangely affecting story about your young self - you should work it into some fiction. I had a PE shirt that did button down the front - but everyone else had non-button ones, and I felt very much odd-girl-out, even though I'm sure no-one else noticed. Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-91065859877419132422015-04-27T14:10:24.825+01:002015-04-27T14:10:24.825+01:00I like this category, Moira. I have a similar one....I like this category, Moira. I have a similar one. And the mention of liberty bodices took me right back. It was a real misnomer. I used to wear one aged 9 or 10 and worried that I wouldn't be able to fight my way out of it when I had to change for PE. Mine didn't have buttons.Christinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16510409974009816550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-15132741479920796492015-04-27T08:52:51.183+01:002015-04-27T08:52:51.183+01:00You're let off because of making me laugh abou...You're let off because of making me laugh about it.Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-2330477526925113472015-04-27T08:52:32.281+01:002015-04-27T08:52:32.281+01:00Curt, that's very much how I feel about her bo...Curt, that's very much how I feel about her books. I have a category I call 'don't rush to read these books, but if I was stuck in a bed and breakfast overnight with nothing else to read, I'd be delighted to find one on the shelf and would get stuck in immediately.' I know - it's a catchy title isn't it? Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-40869859315352610562015-04-27T04:41:46.508+01:002015-04-27T04:41:46.508+01:00Cheers for the mention, but you're right not m...Cheers for the mention, but you're right not my sort of book.col2910https://www.blogger.com/profile/06422138069939709043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-59911779357338693852015-04-27T00:25:17.831+01:002015-04-27T00:25:17.831+01:00I have slowly got into the world of Miss Wentworth...I have slowly got into the world of Miss Wentworth. I don't claim to have read all the Miss Silvers and I have liked some better than others most definitely, but I'm coming to find her interesting, precisely for the way she conformed to so many "cozy" archetypes (more than Christie I think). I really did rather enjoy Miss Silver Comes to Stay in particular and I liked The Watersplash too.<br /><br />I'll be dropping this one father down on the "to read" list though!The Passing Tramphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09830680639601570152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-37715962590563487222015-04-26T22:15:39.672+01:002015-04-26T22:15:39.672+01:00The thanks are entirely due from me to you! And ye...The thanks are entirely due from me to you! And yes, Noah nails it doesn't he? See what he says below...Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-90695866248380610642015-04-26T21:34:44.349+01:002015-04-26T21:34:44.349+01:00I found it all fascinating, I was so grateful to V...I found it all fascinating, I was so grateful to Vicki for pointing it out, and I'm glad the comments prove that everyone else was equally intrigued by this part of the book...Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-51457543479718356322015-04-26T21:32:37.637+01:002015-04-26T21:32:37.637+01:00I really liked your article Noah, as I hope I made...I really liked your article Noah, as I hope I made clear! Yes, unknown phrases niggle away at me: at least it's easier to check things out now with our computers. I think French legs means not elasticated, loose and perhaps trimmed with lace (but prepared to be told I'm wrong!). A spencer is a vest I believe... there's a button-up one in one of the pics above. I think this is surprisingly sexy for a cook, is the implication. I'm sure Ms Wentworth would be delighted that we're all analysing this so closely!Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-57567415498064405922015-04-26T21:26:14.186+01:002015-04-26T21:26:14.186+01:00Love the Witzchoura, which I had never heard of. A...Love the Witzchoura, which I had never heard of. All my Regency info comes from Georgette Heyer, but I don't remember her mentioning that one...Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-41778435351381791272015-04-26T21:24:49.591+01:002015-04-26T21:24:49.591+01:00Well if you don't know it I know it MUST be ob...Well if you don't know it I know it MUST be obscure! It struck me when I first read Busman's Honeymoon: I was in a closely analytical mood, and I used to worrit over phrases in my favourite books that I didn't understand. I would have been SOOO happy to have had Google in those days (even though it didn't help much this time) - I still occasionally come across something that sovles some half-forgotten mystery in a book I read when I was 16....Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-75287994230705207662015-04-26T21:22:23.921+01:002015-04-26T21:22:23.921+01:00Yes it is hard to keep up - but I was so glad I re...Yes it is hard to keep up - but I was so glad I read Noah's piece, and am now glad I managed to point it out to you. And yes, I think you don't want to read too many of these in a row, but they're enjoyable when you come to them after a gap.Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-22059373474270586342015-04-26T21:20:35.283+01:002015-04-26T21:20:35.283+01:00The old dear is pulling me in - I used to think of...The old dear is pulling me in - I used to think of her as much inferior to other detectives, and I have read fewer Wentworth books than most of the standard authors. But now I am finding myself working my way through them....Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-55024203385573682512015-04-26T21:19:31.673+01:002015-04-26T21:19:31.673+01:00The crocheted bra is quite the stunner isn't i...The crocheted bra is quite the stunner isn't it? Yes, she really branches out in this book, normally it's just the standard discussion on making the baby clothes larger than they need just now...Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-31222212601125020102015-04-26T21:18:45.376+01:002015-04-26T21:18:45.376+01:00Thanks for visiting and commenting, Cass, and glad...Thanks for visiting and commenting, Cass, and glad you liked it. I enjoyed the book (with reservations) and really enjoyed finding pictures to go with the entry. Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-50828530159378872492015-04-26T18:51:17.561+01:002015-04-26T18:51:17.561+01:00But I do know what a spencer is and wore one at sc...But I do know what a spencer is and wore one at school - a long-sleeved, front-buttoning, waist-length woolly vest. One of my classmates wore a liberty bodice - same thing without the sleeves. It was cold.<br /><br />More here, and also info on the Witzchoura: http://www.janeausten.co.uk/cloaks-capes-pelisses-and-spencers/Lucy R. Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08632983296994349550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-51273688279754770582015-04-26T18:45:20.100+01:002015-04-26T18:45:20.100+01:00Something like "it would pay you to dress wel...Something like "it would pay you to dress well"? Undertones of marrying for money probably not intended? Or "you would be worth dressing well"?<br /><br />I haven't met it before, and didn't notice the Duchess's remark.Lucy R. Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08632983296994349550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-43749634372512421322015-04-26T17:02:01.095+01:002015-04-26T17:02:01.095+01:00Very nice post and I enjoyed the information on kn...Very nice post and I enjoyed the information on knitting and crocheted items. Thanks for pointing out the article at Noah's blog which I had missed. It is so hard to keep up with everything. <br /><br />I have said before ... and maybe here... that I read lots of Miss Silver books years ago and I did find them repetitious after reading several in a row. To me, that only makes them undesirable if I read a lot at a time, but if I read them in small doses, it isn't a problem. I haven't read any in a while and look forward to discovering how Wentworth's writing strikes me now. <br /><br />I did skip the "slight spoiler" section even though who knows if I will ever get to this particular book.TracyKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08303342674824383688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-91254645700977642632015-04-26T15:10:27.303+01:002015-04-26T15:10:27.303+01:00Moira, you took the word right out of my pen, so t...Moira, you took the word right out of my pen, so to speak. I found the quoted passage stunning and didn't know this sort of thing was written about even in mid-20th century. The description is really good.Prashant C. Trikannadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16079354501998741758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-78056773002467314782015-04-26T14:49:12.812+01:002015-04-26T14:49:12.812+01:00Thanks for your very nice comments! I have learned...Thanks for your very nice comments! I have learned a lot from Miss Silver ... I'm one of those people who likes to find out exactly what is meant when an author uses a word or phrase, and Wentworth is always coming up with things for me to investigate. For instance, Eliza the cook's cami-knickers with "French legs". I can imagine what that means -- the onlookers appear to feel that's a bit more racy and upper-class than they were expecting from a stout cook -- but my inquiring mind wants to know exactly what's meant. (And what exactly is a "spencer"?)<br />I agree with Vicki that this particular volume is a bit ho-hum, and I agree with you that the set-up is implausible. And the identity of the murder wasn't really a surprise to me, although with Wentworth it frequently is. <br />As regards your phrase: I'm sure I've encountered it before, and I think your translation of "gets a good return on clothes in terms of appearance" is very accurate. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-72560589901767759322015-04-26T13:15:54.098+01:002015-04-26T13:15:54.098+01:00That is definitely a vivid picture of Miss Silver ...That is definitely a vivid picture of Miss Silver being searched, Moira! I actually like Miss Silver as a character, although I do know what you mean about the plot of this novel. And I will be really interested if you find out what 'pay for dressing' means. I've heard it before, too, but not really 'gotten' it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6129427507761315524.post-70244705911915677192015-04-26T11:53:40.688+01:002015-04-26T11:53:40.688+01:00I am goggling at the crocheted bra & trying to...I am goggling at the crocheted bra & trying to imagine the pattern. In the Miss Silvers I have read so far, she's only ever making baby vests! But that's knitting too.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17782561487396697870noreply@blogger.com